$Best World(CGN.SI)

Bonitas has rebutted Best World's rebuttal (attached).

Bonitas makes sense to me. Furthermore, they put money in their mouth and declare they are shortists, publish reasons for shorting. I think its fair and they serve a useful function in the market. The amount of research and legwork they put in is beyond most investors, including institutional ones.

Dont forget, Bonitas' reputation is also at stake. They are also building a track record. If shown to be unreliable, in future nobody will give them any credibility.

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KnowNuts

have the impression that things that deal in China are mostly dishonest.

michaelmlts

think the most discriminating is the brother in law. But like to ask hor surname hoan and huan same meh?

kc2024

Reply to @michaelmlts : maybe missi spelled wrongly.

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TheMAOZD

Took a glance at the independent directors list in Best World. I wonder what they are doing? Kiao kar shake leg?

WK888

Reply to @TheMAOZD : Paid well to do nothing... Being kept happy...

traderx

When are retail traders going to learn a lesson repeating itself recently?.Good to be informed of reports but do not trade based on report alone. That earning report can be used as toilet papers. Instead of cursing shortists, when one still stubborn do not want to learn to short only has oneself to blame and is missing out potential opportunity to make money when real collapse come. One has to be nimble to move both ways in Trump's era of cowboys market. Price action matter most.

leewe

Let them fight it out in court. We watch

lynlynnakamori

The short one never learnt their lessons!

luxcan

Reply to @lynlynnakamori : +1, now just sideline and watch how it turns out

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tansiowc88

Avoid, avoid, avoid...

Hayashi8

can u afford to tie your money for so long....what if it goes under?

ThumbTackInvestor

Hong Lim Park got business again soon.
let the festivities begin!!!
lolol

DareDevil

Reply to @ThumbTackInvestor : Set up a carnival

carsonkuah

I believe will suspend all the way to AGM liao

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